Last night I had the chance to listen to and meet Jeff Galloway, the former Olympic marathoner and current running coach/entrepreneur, who was speaking at my local Road Runner Sports store. The session was a very informal Q&A in which Jeff answered general running questions as well as specific questions about his training programs. Unfortunately, I didn’t take notes, so the following won’t contain exact quotes from Jeff, but will (hopefully) capture the gist of his comments.
On Stretching
One of the audience members asked about stretching, and when they should be doing it. Galloway responded that he didn’t recommend stretching for runners, with the possible exception of an IT band (iliotibial band) stretch (explained here). He explained that there was no evidence that stretching was helpful to runners, and in fact, was often the source of injury. He also said that he believed the same was true of plyometrics and yoga – that there was no benefit to runners.
To me, this was the most radical statement that he made the entire night. I had previously heard and read from several sources that you shouldn’t stretch before running, but had never heard such a blanket statement that it was something to be avoided, and in fact, many if not most programs seem to recommended stretching after running.
On Weight Training
When I asked Jeff about what weight training he recommended for runners, he said that he didn’t recommend any type of leg weights, but he did recommend exercises to strengthen your shoulders and core.
One specific exercise he mentioned was what he called “arm running”, which he described as moving your arms in a running motion while holding weights and standing still. This exercise will strengthen your shoulders, back and arms, which should reduce the fatigue people sometimes get in those areas.
On Massage and Related Therapies
Jeff said that he was a proponent of deep tissue massage, and that he believed that it aided recovery. He also recommended using a foam roller as a home alternative to massage.
When I asked him about Active Release Therapy (ART), his opinion was mixed. He believed that it could be helpful for certain injuries, like plantar fasciitis, if you had a good therapist, but it could cause more harm than good if you put yourself in the wrong hands.
On Cross Training
Jeff said that the evidence showed that cross training would not help you improve your running, but that didn’t mean that he didn’t recommend it for other reasons. For example, he mentioned that studies showed that for every hour spent doing aerobic exercise, people gained two hours back in increased lifespan.
The only cross training exercise that he believed would actually help runners improve was pool running. For this, he recommended using either a ‘pool noodle’ or an AquaJogger belt for flotation.
On Ice Baths
I believe the exact words he used for this therapy was ‘cruel and unusual’. However, this doesn’t mean that he didn’t see the benefit of cooling your legs after a hard run, he just felt that an ice bath was too extreme.
Jeff said that the studies showed a benefit from cooling your legs down within the first 15 minutes after running, but that you only needed to immerse yourself in water that was about 20 degrees cooler than the temperature your legs were at, for example, a pool or a cool bath.
This was welcome news to me, as I am really cold-adverse and the thought of an ice bath just makes me cringe.
On His Run/Walk/Run Methodology
Jeff believes, and said that the results from those that have followed his program show, that using his run/walk/run method both during long training runs and races will produce faster times, at least at the longer distances. When asked specifically about the 5K, he indicated that the results were less positive, although some people had shown good results.
He gave several examples of significant improvements by runners who used this method, ranging from those who had been 6 hour + marathoners to those whose times had been under 3 hours and were trying to qualify for Boston. His explanation for these results was that the walk breaks keep your legs fresher, allowing you to recover faster and not tire at the end of the race.
The length of the breaks he recommends vary from 30 seconds running/1 minute walking for those running at a slower pace (16 minutes/mile) to 4 minutes running/35 seconds walking for those running at a faster (8 minutes/mile) training pace. He also mentioned that during a race, if you feel strong, you can skip the walk breaks during the final few miles.
My Thoughts
Galloway’s opinions definitely gave me something to think about. I’m not ready to wholeheartedly embrace his ideas on not stretching, but I will make sure that I stretch even more cautiously than I have been, and that I don’t push myself beyond my current capabilities when doing yoga. For me, the benefits I get from yoga, including improved core strength and increased calm, are too important to me to make me stop, even if I am increasing my risk of injury.
Regarding walk breaks: this is something I never have done in the past, and I am considering trying it out. I know a lot of people are proponents of this method, and it was interesting to hear that even people who are much faster than I am have improved their times using the run/walk/run method.
Regarding cross training: I will continue to incorporate cross training into my fitness plans, for calorie-burning reasons, variety, and for sheer enjoyment. One adjustment I will make it to include occasional pool running into my training schedule.
If you have any opinions or personal experience on anything mentioned here, especially his more controversial ideas (e.g. not stretching and the run/walk/run methodology), I’d love to hear about them, so please leave a comment.
In the words of Michael B., a fellow blogger/runner and a huge proponent of Galloway’s run/walk/run method, gotta run!
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Twitter: runfrom30
June 9, 2009 at 10:47 am
I don’t know about the stretching thing. I mean, if someone like Galloway says it publicly, there must be something to it. But to me, I stretch so I can walk! If I don’t stretch, I can barely get up/down the stairs later. And, like you, yoga brings me much more than stretching – in fact, I think I sweat more doing yoga than running – and I find I’m a better runner because of it. As always, of course, you shouldn’t push yourself beyond your capabilities.
I’m not sure I can fully get behind Galloway’s run/walk methods – mostly because I have used them as a slow, unfit runner and feel like I ought to be able to do away with them as I get to be a not-quite-so-slow, not-quite-so-unfit runner.
So basically, I’m completely disagreeing with Galloway. Except maybe on the ice bath thing, I can never bring myself to try those.
Twitter: kchealy
June 9, 2009 at 10:56 am
Running from 30 – I know what you mean about the run/walk method. There’s something in me that wouldn’t feel like a ‘real runner’ if I did that, even though I certainly don’t feel that way about other people that use the method. Huge mental block for me, but I may try to overcome my mental resistance to the idea and try it out on some longer runs since it seems to work so well for so many people.
Twitter: raulgonemobile
June 9, 2009 at 11:37 am
Thanks for the recap!
I’ve been coming back from an ITB issue over the last couple of months. A few weeks ago, I started a Galloway-style of running. I haven’t been exact with running x number of minutes and walking y seconds or anything like that, but I’ve been consistent in taking walk breaks. I’ve found that I can indeed run father overall by doing this. I’m going to stick with this approach for the forseeable future and see what happens.
Twitter: kchealy
June 9, 2009 at 2:28 pm
That’s great that run/walk is working for you, raulgonemobile. I hope your IT band issues continue to improve.
Twitter: runnerkara
June 9, 2009 at 12:16 pm
You would be surprises how refreshing a 30 sec break is during a half marathon. And you’re still moving for that 30 seconds – just a bit slower.
I promote it for long runs. I generally take a walk break every 7 mins.
As for stretching – I always stretch!!! And will continue : )
Great post – thanks kc
Twitter: kchealy
June 9, 2009 at 2:27 pm
Thanks for the input, Kara. I will be trying short walk breaks, as least in some of my longer runs.
Twitter: natsbrain
June 10, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Hi,
(karen shared this and here I am.)
I’m a huge proponent of run/walk. It just gets me through it all and allows me to go the distance.
As for stretching, I interviewed an orthopedic surgeon for a story I did for a local newspaper I was working for many moons ago. He advocated never stretching before a run. Through the stretching, he explained, you’re causing microtears in the muscles which will make running more difficult and could lead to injury. If you feel the need, you should wait until you’re warmed up (say run a km or two) then stop and stretch even then, he wouldn’t recommend it. After a run, well, he said again to be careful and it’s definitely not necessary.
As for yoga, I’m not giving it up — his theory on cross-training flies in the face of things like the FIRST half marathon training plan which relies on it heavily. (And seems to be bearing out positive results for the pros.)
Twitter: kchealy
June 11, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Thanks for the comments, Nat. Especially the information about your interview with the orthopedic surgeon, who appears to agree completely with Galloway on the stretching issue.
I’m not giving up yoga either!
Caught your comments from a Google Alert I have in place for the run walk run method. I’ve been running for almost a year and a half. I’ll be 48 next month. I do Chirunning. I was training at about 9:30 to 10 minute miles doing about 15 miles/week. I ran Robie Creek in April, touted as the toughest half marathon in the northwest (and my first race since highschool). I did it in 2:17. Then I discovered the run-walk-run about a month ago…I love it! I dropped 6 minutes off my 3 mile run time. I’ve been training mostly around 8:30 to 8:45 minute miles now. I run 4 or 5 minutes and walk one. I have an interval timer on my Timex Ironman watch that beeps when it’s time to run or walk. I feel better. My achilles is starting to heal (while I increase my mileage). I enjoy my runs more. I recover faster. I spill less water when drink during runs.
) This is just a tool. It makes no sense to think of it as not real running. If someone said wear these new shoes and you’ll drop 30 seconds per mile off your running times, wouldn’t we do it? What’s the difference between that and some strategic walking? I highly recommend it.
Doug
Twitter: kchealy
June 11, 2009 at 3:40 pm
Thanks for the comments, Doug, and I’m glad the run/walk method is working for you. Like I said, I may give it a try on some of my longer runs.
Wow. No stretching? I guess there IS a lot of debate over stretching out there. I just couldn’t give up stretching though. I follow the sound advice from many PT’s that tell me you shouldn’t stretch BEFORE warming your muscles up. I DO stretch after a run because I end up with serious cramps in my legs during the following days if I don’t stretch.
I’m not really a big Galloway fan. Although I know that a lot of people really benefit from his run/walk method so maybe there is a method to the controversial statements.
Twitter: kchealy
June 11, 2009 at 3:43 pm
Thanks for the comments, Rachel. It does seem like there is a growing consensus on not stretching before warming your muscles up.
Great stuff Kristen, but I pretty much disagree with him on almost everything. Maybe that’s why he’s a much better runner than I? I know if I don’t stretch on any long runs (like 6 miles and more), I am so sore the next day that I can barely walk. And I may be a freak, but I don’t mind ice baths. I guess it stems from old football days and taking ice baths. I see some runners when I have run marathons doing the run walk method, and I think that might not be a bad idea, but I’ve never tried it. But I believe that every runner is different, and whatever works for you, stick with it!
Twitter: kchealy
June 13, 2009 at 6:59 am
I’m not sure about all of Galloway’s ideas either Dave, but I know I agree with your ‘whatever works for you’ philosophy!
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